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They started the microcomputer (personal computer) revolution, and the trinity was the PET 2001 from Commodore, the TRS-80 model 1 from Tandy corporation, and the Apple ][ from Apple computers. According to some this makes the PET the first homecomputer, as it is said it arrived first on the market of these three. But in fact I know of at least several others that came before it that could be called that, for example the SOL-20 came on the market in June 1976, at least a year earlier, but yes it wasn't a mass marketed machine. | They started the microcomputer (personal computer) revolution, and the trinity was the PET 2001 from Commodore, the TRS-80 model 1 from Tandy corporation, and the Apple ][ from Apple computers. According to some this makes the PET the first homecomputer, as it is said it arrived first on the market of these three. But in fact I know of at least several others that came before it that could be called that, for example the SOL-20 came on the market in June 1976, at least a year earlier, but yes it wasn't a mass marketed machine. | ||
Very soon after that launch, Commodore realised they had a winner, and when they had depleted their small supply of surplus calculator keys they used for their launch machines (they were in the calculator business, but had lost out to Texas Instruments) they realised a better keyboard, and more memory was needed (the original blue Label PET only came in an 8K version that used static RAM) , so they removed the built in tapedeck to make room for a larger real keyboard, and released this improved version as the "Commodore Business Machine" or CBM in three types, one with 8K DRAM, one with 16K DRAM and one with 32K DRAM, this last one was called the type 3032, where the 32 stood for the amount of 32K RAM | |||
The 8K and 16K machines proved to be less popular, and really only were bought by people who tried to convert them to 32K machines themselves, a practice Commodore actively tried to make impossible by drilling large holes in the place on the board where the second 16K RAM bank was located! See Picture below, where you can see the four large holes drilled in a row though the unused second bank of ram chips in the front of the large PCB: | The 8K and 16K machines proved to be less popular, and really only were bought by people who tried to convert them to 32K machines themselves, a practice Commodore actively tried to make impossible by drilling large holes in the place on the board where the second 16K RAM bank was located! See Picture below, where you can see the four large holes drilled in a row though the unused second bank of ram chips in the front of the large PCB: | ||
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message! and a blinking cursor. joy! | message! and a blinking cursor. joy! | ||
It seems all the (video) logic, and | It seems all the (video) logic, and DRAM powered by the defective LM340-5 has survived! | ||
Unfortunately the PET does not react to keypresses, so we have to do some more work on it, but I really did make progress. | Unfortunately the PET does not react to keypresses, so we have to do some more work on it, but I really did make progress. | ||
The best part was that the text was completely unwavering, so my CRT repair was a good one. | The best part was that the text was completely unwavering, so my CRT repair was a good one. | ||
Next, try to replace the 6520 PIA that is used for the keyboard. | Next, try to replace the 6520 PIA that is used for the keyboard. | ||
== 27 July Keyboard partly works == | |||
First I switched the 6520 that drives the keyboard with the one that drives the IEEE bus, it made no change. Secondly I looked and a BCD to decimal decoder that drives the 10 matrix lines of the keyboard, and at its input I saw that the keyboard was being scanned. To make a long story short, it seems the contacts of the keyboard switches have oxidised and closing the contact no longer represents a low enough impedance to overcome the eight 10K pullups. I managed to get the contact for the spacebar to lower from a few kilo ohm to a few hundred ohm by using K60 contact spray an some vigorous rubbing, and so I applied the same treatment to all other key contacts. Unfortunately I had disassembled one key so that I could press its carbonised rubber dome to the pad, and in the process I managed to loose the spring that pushed the key up again. sigh. :-( | |||
I tested the keyboard after re-assembling it (minus the springless key) and the spacebar worked, as did a few others, but on the whole it seems rubbing K60 on the pads isn't helping enough. I guess the keypads will never become as they have once been. | |||
I'm thinking of replacing the 10K pullups with some that are much weaker, say 47K or perhaps even 100K, these still will pull the GPIO (6520 PIA) pins up above logic high level, but even a much weaker contact closure may be enough to bring them below logic low level, not the nicest solution, but I can try if it works. Before the K60 treatment I saw that the GPIO for space only dropped halfway (to about 2.5V) so a five fold decrease in pullup strength should help there. I could also try to replace the BCD to decimal decoder with a new, stronger one, but I don't think its the problem, its just that the keys have worn out. | |||
== 29 July Repair completed, keyboard works 100% == | |||
After changing the 10K pullups to 47K, most keys still would not work, and I came convinced that not only were the key-pad fingers worn, but somehow they were also contaminated with something, perhaps the original user was a heavy smoker, or some coke was dripped into the keyboard in the past. I decided to re-tin the contact fingers of the spacebar (which already worked) and the enter key which did not at all work, even with the weaker pullups, and see what the result was. It was good, both space and enter now worked reliably. So I started on the enormous job of very carefully re-tinning the tiny traces that formed interlocking fingers under each of the eighty or so carbon pads. With the help of some liquid solder flux, a soldering iron set to the exact temperature at which the solder "took" while the glue to which the pads were bonded to the PCB did not give way, and some solder wick to spread out the solder evenly. It was a difficult job, but in the end it all worked out, and after cleaning the PCB thoroughly with flux remover and isopropanol all keys worked again. I temporary replaced the lost spring with a piece of rubber tube. | |||
Now I can start using the PET! | |||
Lets see if I can find a commodore cassette player for it. | |||
I do have a dual floppy unit that I can also try now, I don't know if it works, but we will see. | |||
I will also re-assemble the original speaker system that the previous user had built in. | |||
== Nice demo one liner== | |||
It draws what strongly looks like a labyrint on the screen, but in reality it is just one line of BASIC, which randomly prints slashes or back slashes: | |||
'''10? CHR$(205.5+RND(1));:GOTO 10''' | |||
Thanks whoever entered this one-liner. | |||
== My PET at the SHA2017 == | |||
Well, I brought my PET to the SHA2017, and it was worth it! It massively attracted attention, although it was in a bit of a hidden location on the "Flowers" field. Whenever I came back to my tent there were always people sitting in my chair working with it, sometimes they had entered simple "hello world" programs, but I have also seen them editing an existing demo program to calculate primes during the pause in the scrolling demo. | |||
It must have been photographed a hundred times while it was there, and appeared on twitter, like with this picture: | |||
[[File:DGjAJYsXsAEE1gR.jpg]] | |||
When I wanted to go to my tent at 2 AM at night there would be some people there which wanted me to explain bit about the PET, and I often showed them the inside, which always drew amazement when I lifted it open like a car hood. | |||
They were also amazed to hear it was from the year 1977, so its 40 years old! which is older that most of its visitors. | |||
Such sessions could last for an hour or so, until I became too tired and wanted to go to sleep, although such sessions also happened early in the morning when I carried it out of my tent. | |||
Very often someone offered to lift it into or out of my tent, which I truly appreciated because the thing is quite heavy, but I could not leave it outside in the morning dew. | |||
I also really appreciated all the help I got, for example when I hurried to my tent because it had started to rain, I found that some kind soul had put my folding chair upside down over it to protect it from the rain, but also when carrying it to and from the luggage trolley pickup point I've got help almost immediately (to my great relief). | |||
The PET worked great, for most time, although I noticed one evening that it seemed to have become a bit "demented" and for example started to ignore some goto statements, and do other seemingly strange things, probably because it was a bit moist at the time, later that behaviour disappeared again. | |||
The Revspace sticker on the PET also drew attention, and many people asked what Revspace was, and if my PET could be seen there. I think we could expect some people to come visit us in the near future. | |||
In short bringing my PET to the SHA was not easy, and a bit crazy, but totally worth it! | |||
== November 21, 2017 PET relocated to the lounge room == | |||
My PET is now moved to a rack in the lounge room, I hope to add a dual floppy disk unit which so far is still untested next to it, now there is room there to do so next to it. | |||
== November 28, 2017 added a CBM 8050 dual floppy to the PET == | |||
Brought the dual floppy unit for the PET I have, to RevSpace, unfortunately I have never before tried it, and it doesn't turn on :-( . | |||
Oh well another repair job then. I also need some 5 1/4 " floppies for it, preferably formatted for these drives, perhaps floppies from a C64 will work, and I might be able to get some of these. | |||
it will be hard to port some software from the net to it, perhaps with a cassette unit, (a C64 unit will work) and a cassette injector (a cassette without tape, but with a magnetic-tape-head) so I can play some wave files into it from my laptop using a .TAP player. | |||
Unfortunately the drive did not turn on, and some heavy disassembly brought to light that the power switch was broken, I tried to replace it with one I found at revspace, which *almost* fitted, but even though I tested it before I tried to put it in after soldering wires to it it started failing too. :-(. | |||
I found a new one from farnell, and am now awaiting delivery. | |||
== December 12m 2017 replaced power switch == | |||
Bought a new switch, and installed it, after blowing a few fuses, because I connected to the wrong primary winding connections (that what you get if you rely only on memory, and it lasts two weeks before you can continue) it worked. The blinking leds on the drive indicated the two (!) 6502 microprocessors in the CBM8050 were still working. | |||
So I connected it up to the PET, and tried if I could somehow prove it was working, without having a floppy. | |||
So I tried commands like LOAD"$",8,1 but got no reaction, also not with the more correct LOAD ¨$0",8. | |||
I did notice that turning the PET on and off seem to reset the CMB 8050, | |||
have to organize a floppy (which I did in the mean time) and try to format it. | |||
The command DCLEAR 0,0 should do so (according the commodore 1541 manual, which I presume is still valid for the 8050) | |||
== Tuesday January 2, 2018 we have let the magic smoke out from the floppy unit == | |||
Not as serious perhaps as it sounds, but after a few hours of being turned on suddenly there was a bang, and smoke came out of the floppy unit. After fearing the worst, we concluded that it was just the mains filter that had given up the ghost. Probably just because it was so ancient. | |||
I have looked at a replacement filter, but nothing like it (small cylinder with wires protruding from it) is made these days, they are either embedded in a schuko power entry, or large block like modules. | |||
I think if I want to replace it I have to make one myself, from a couple of 500V 470pF caps, and a common mode choke. | |||
== End of 2019, took the PET and floppy drives home == | |||
Both my PETS, a CBM4032, and a CBM8016 , and the dual drive unit I have now at home, but I never replaced the blown mains filter, only bypassed it. I also never got the floppy drives to work. | |||
Just a few months later the corona crisis started , and it still continues now (in February 2022, and RevSpace is still mainly closed. I have not much energy now to anyway. |
Latest revision as of 16:04, 12 April 2022
Project repair PET2001 (AKA CBM2032) | |
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Een poging tot reparatie van een echte klassieker, de CBM 3032 uit 1977 | |
Status | Completed |
Contact | Mahjongg |
Last Update | 2022-04-12 |
The original first PET, for Personal Electronic Transactor (The "Blue label PET" variant with calculator keys, and a built in tapedeck) was one of the "Trinity", The three first commercial, microprocessor based, "home computers" which were released in 1977 almost simultaneously. They started the microcomputer (personal computer) revolution, and the trinity was the PET 2001 from Commodore, the TRS-80 model 1 from Tandy corporation, and the Apple ][ from Apple computers. According to some this makes the PET the first homecomputer, as it is said it arrived first on the market of these three. But in fact I know of at least several others that came before it that could be called that, for example the SOL-20 came on the market in June 1976, at least a year earlier, but yes it wasn't a mass marketed machine.
Very soon after that launch, Commodore realised they had a winner, and when they had depleted their small supply of surplus calculator keys they used for their launch machines (they were in the calculator business, but had lost out to Texas Instruments) they realised a better keyboard, and more memory was needed (the original blue Label PET only came in an 8K version that used static RAM) , so they removed the built in tapedeck to make room for a larger real keyboard, and released this improved version as the "Commodore Business Machine" or CBM in three types, one with 8K DRAM, one with 16K DRAM and one with 32K DRAM, this last one was called the type 3032, where the 32 stood for the amount of 32K RAM The 8K and 16K machines proved to be less popular, and really only were bought by people who tried to convert them to 32K machines themselves, a practice Commodore actively tried to make impossible by drilling large holes in the place on the board where the second 16K RAM bank was located! See Picture below, where you can see the four large holes drilled in a row though the unused second bank of ram chips in the front of the large PCB:
I have both the later 80-column machine (the 8032) and the original 40-column machine the CBM 3032, the first one works but not the latter one, which sucks as all the good software was written for the 40-column machine, so I'm trying to repair the defective 40-column PET.
repair at Revspace started 11 July 2017
The symptoms are that the system when turned on gives an inverted (all white) picture with only a black blinking cursor, and the picture is very unstable, as if there are large amounts of ripple in the power supply, and it also disappears unless you tap the enclosure. So I had already replaced the massive 23000 MFD (microfarad) 15V DC "Bulk Elco" with screw terminals tie-rapped to the bottom of the case, and a slightly smaller 4700uF 25V axial elco on the main board, but without any change, So probably one of the elco's in the monitor itself has gone bad, I have now removed the monitor (head part) from the PET, and removed another elco from its PCB, next time I will bring a replacement elco, and a new fuse (large size 3/4A 250V slow blow) which I blew due to me stupidly shorting the 18V AC leads leading the the monitor from the very bulky transformer. I will also clean the brightness potentiometer as I think its causing the disappearance of the video due to a bad contact in it.
further repair on monitor 19 July 2017
I removed, cleaned and tested the 100K brightness potmeter, and it was fine, no intermittent contacts. Even though I noted that putting pressure on its axis brought back the picture, but I suspected a cold joint somewhere on the PCB, so I resoldered any and all solder joints, and in the end managed to get a stable picture out of the scope that didn't disappear all the time, but was still shaky. I noted that after a minute or so I saw black stripes in the white picture, and it seemed to become worse as time passed, I had seem this the very first time I turned on the PET too, but now the monitor stayed on it was more obvious. To me it looked like a bad chip somewhere that failed as it was warming up. I decided to do some voltage checking, and to my horror found about 7.5V on first one, and then other LSTTL chips in the from of the board. So there is a power supply fault somewhere, which may explain why when turning the PET off I see a glimpse of the *** COMMODORE BASIC *** initialisation text Perhaps that during the falling of the power voltage, for a moment the display logic starts working.... I don't know if (LS) TTL can withstand 7.5V for very long, but perhaps I'm lucky. I think the PET has two different 5V "zones" each one powered by a different 5V regulator. Perhaps the fault is only in the display logic "zone", and not in the CPU logic "zone". I have to printout the schematic (which I have in electronic form) to check this, then attempt to use a bench power supply to power the display zone. I noticed that the -5V supply voltage was okay.
20 July
I managed to acquire an LM340-5, which is the more precise version of the simple 7805 linear regulator (4.9 to 5.1 volt, instead of 4.8 to 5.2 Volt). In the PET there are two TO-3 versions of the LM340-5 used, but mine has a TO220 package. Should work, as both are 1.0A max (or 1.5A depending on who you ask). I also printed out a technical reference manual, with schematics, and saw that the two LM340-5's used both fed to a different +5V line, but nothing says which chips are fed by one regulator or by the other regulator. Stupidly the net labels are both simply called "+5", a mortal sin with modern CAD systems as CAD software will simply connect both nets together, which in this case I'm sure is NOT true (At least I hope not). Just have to find out with a multimeter which chips are connected to which "+5" net. I only ever saw a system before that used two 7805 Regulators in this way, namely the Acorn Atom, I always thought the Atom was unique in this, but perhaps not, and they stole this idea from the PET. I also noted that the very first PET used not dynamic but static RAM, only later they learned to use 16K x 1 dynamic RAM chips, for which they had to add refresh logic. The schematics of the later PETs with DRAM carry the name "Dynamic PET". LOL.
26 July SUCCESS !
After removing the LM340-5 that I thought was defective, I could connect it to a power supply on its own, and could determine it was indeed defective! So I tried replacing it with an external Lab power supply to see of the part of the board powered by this supply wasn't defective (with the normal supply generating other voltages the board needed, such as +12V and -5V) and would start to draw a lot of current, that wasn't the case, it drew a steady 1A. So I turned on the monitor too, and lo and behold I was greeted with a
*** COMMODORE BASIC 4.8 ***
31743 BYTES FREE
READY.
message! and a blinking cursor. joy!
It seems all the (video) logic, and DRAM powered by the defective LM340-5 has survived!
Unfortunately the PET does not react to keypresses, so we have to do some more work on it, but I really did make progress. The best part was that the text was completely unwavering, so my CRT repair was a good one. Next, try to replace the 6520 PIA that is used for the keyboard.
27 July Keyboard partly works
First I switched the 6520 that drives the keyboard with the one that drives the IEEE bus, it made no change. Secondly I looked and a BCD to decimal decoder that drives the 10 matrix lines of the keyboard, and at its input I saw that the keyboard was being scanned. To make a long story short, it seems the contacts of the keyboard switches have oxidised and closing the contact no longer represents a low enough impedance to overcome the eight 10K pullups. I managed to get the contact for the spacebar to lower from a few kilo ohm to a few hundred ohm by using K60 contact spray an some vigorous rubbing, and so I applied the same treatment to all other key contacts. Unfortunately I had disassembled one key so that I could press its carbonised rubber dome to the pad, and in the process I managed to loose the spring that pushed the key up again. sigh. :-(
I tested the keyboard after re-assembling it (minus the springless key) and the spacebar worked, as did a few others, but on the whole it seems rubbing K60 on the pads isn't helping enough. I guess the keypads will never become as they have once been.
I'm thinking of replacing the 10K pullups with some that are much weaker, say 47K or perhaps even 100K, these still will pull the GPIO (6520 PIA) pins up above logic high level, but even a much weaker contact closure may be enough to bring them below logic low level, not the nicest solution, but I can try if it works. Before the K60 treatment I saw that the GPIO for space only dropped halfway (to about 2.5V) so a five fold decrease in pullup strength should help there. I could also try to replace the BCD to decimal decoder with a new, stronger one, but I don't think its the problem, its just that the keys have worn out.
29 July Repair completed, keyboard works 100%
After changing the 10K pullups to 47K, most keys still would not work, and I came convinced that not only were the key-pad fingers worn, but somehow they were also contaminated with something, perhaps the original user was a heavy smoker, or some coke was dripped into the keyboard in the past. I decided to re-tin the contact fingers of the spacebar (which already worked) and the enter key which did not at all work, even with the weaker pullups, and see what the result was. It was good, both space and enter now worked reliably. So I started on the enormous job of very carefully re-tinning the tiny traces that formed interlocking fingers under each of the eighty or so carbon pads. With the help of some liquid solder flux, a soldering iron set to the exact temperature at which the solder "took" while the glue to which the pads were bonded to the PCB did not give way, and some solder wick to spread out the solder evenly. It was a difficult job, but in the end it all worked out, and after cleaning the PCB thoroughly with flux remover and isopropanol all keys worked again. I temporary replaced the lost spring with a piece of rubber tube.
Now I can start using the PET! Lets see if I can find a commodore cassette player for it.
I do have a dual floppy unit that I can also try now, I don't know if it works, but we will see. I will also re-assemble the original speaker system that the previous user had built in.
Nice demo one liner
It draws what strongly looks like a labyrint on the screen, but in reality it is just one line of BASIC, which randomly prints slashes or back slashes:
10? CHR$(205.5+RND(1));:GOTO 10
Thanks whoever entered this one-liner.
My PET at the SHA2017
Well, I brought my PET to the SHA2017, and it was worth it! It massively attracted attention, although it was in a bit of a hidden location on the "Flowers" field. Whenever I came back to my tent there were always people sitting in my chair working with it, sometimes they had entered simple "hello world" programs, but I have also seen them editing an existing demo program to calculate primes during the pause in the scrolling demo. It must have been photographed a hundred times while it was there, and appeared on twitter, like with this picture:
When I wanted to go to my tent at 2 AM at night there would be some people there which wanted me to explain bit about the PET, and I often showed them the inside, which always drew amazement when I lifted it open like a car hood. They were also amazed to hear it was from the year 1977, so its 40 years old! which is older that most of its visitors. Such sessions could last for an hour or so, until I became too tired and wanted to go to sleep, although such sessions also happened early in the morning when I carried it out of my tent. Very often someone offered to lift it into or out of my tent, which I truly appreciated because the thing is quite heavy, but I could not leave it outside in the morning dew. I also really appreciated all the help I got, for example when I hurried to my tent because it had started to rain, I found that some kind soul had put my folding chair upside down over it to protect it from the rain, but also when carrying it to and from the luggage trolley pickup point I've got help almost immediately (to my great relief).
The PET worked great, for most time, although I noticed one evening that it seemed to have become a bit "demented" and for example started to ignore some goto statements, and do other seemingly strange things, probably because it was a bit moist at the time, later that behaviour disappeared again.
The Revspace sticker on the PET also drew attention, and many people asked what Revspace was, and if my PET could be seen there. I think we could expect some people to come visit us in the near future.
In short bringing my PET to the SHA was not easy, and a bit crazy, but totally worth it!
November 21, 2017 PET relocated to the lounge room
My PET is now moved to a rack in the lounge room, I hope to add a dual floppy disk unit which so far is still untested next to it, now there is room there to do so next to it.
November 28, 2017 added a CBM 8050 dual floppy to the PET
Brought the dual floppy unit for the PET I have, to RevSpace, unfortunately I have never before tried it, and it doesn't turn on :-( . Oh well another repair job then. I also need some 5 1/4 " floppies for it, preferably formatted for these drives, perhaps floppies from a C64 will work, and I might be able to get some of these. it will be hard to port some software from the net to it, perhaps with a cassette unit, (a C64 unit will work) and a cassette injector (a cassette without tape, but with a magnetic-tape-head) so I can play some wave files into it from my laptop using a .TAP player.
Unfortunately the drive did not turn on, and some heavy disassembly brought to light that the power switch was broken, I tried to replace it with one I found at revspace, which *almost* fitted, but even though I tested it before I tried to put it in after soldering wires to it it started failing too. :-(. I found a new one from farnell, and am now awaiting delivery.
December 12m 2017 replaced power switch
Bought a new switch, and installed it, after blowing a few fuses, because I connected to the wrong primary winding connections (that what you get if you rely only on memory, and it lasts two weeks before you can continue) it worked. The blinking leds on the drive indicated the two (!) 6502 microprocessors in the CBM8050 were still working. So I connected it up to the PET, and tried if I could somehow prove it was working, without having a floppy. So I tried commands like LOAD"$",8,1 but got no reaction, also not with the more correct LOAD ¨$0",8. I did notice that turning the PET on and off seem to reset the CMB 8050, have to organize a floppy (which I did in the mean time) and try to format it. The command DCLEAR 0,0 should do so (according the commodore 1541 manual, which I presume is still valid for the 8050)
Tuesday January 2, 2018 we have let the magic smoke out from the floppy unit
Not as serious perhaps as it sounds, but after a few hours of being turned on suddenly there was a bang, and smoke came out of the floppy unit. After fearing the worst, we concluded that it was just the mains filter that had given up the ghost. Probably just because it was so ancient. I have looked at a replacement filter, but nothing like it (small cylinder with wires protruding from it) is made these days, they are either embedded in a schuko power entry, or large block like modules. I think if I want to replace it I have to make one myself, from a couple of 500V 470pF caps, and a common mode choke.
End of 2019, took the PET and floppy drives home
Both my PETS, a CBM4032, and a CBM8016 , and the dual drive unit I have now at home, but I never replaced the blown mains filter, only bypassed it. I also never got the floppy drives to work.
Just a few months later the corona crisis started , and it still continues now (in February 2022, and RevSpace is still mainly closed. I have not much energy now to anyway.