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Bamidiscus: move stuff

2024-10-12T17:25:00Z

move stuff

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	This is quite a bit of work. The metadata of parts never change though. The real burden here is to add metadata whenever you add something to the Catalogue.		This is quite a bit of work. The metadata of parts never change though. The real burden here is to add metadata whenever you add something to the Catalogue.

			=== Other notes ===

			supakeen suggests to first asking ourselves '''what do we expect to have at the space?''' Such a question will guide us to prioritize on a base collection of parts and to make space accordingly. All other parts that we have will be a nice supplementary collection.

			Atoomnet suggests to make per category an "exotic parts" box which are such obscure parts that do not belong in the main collection.


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	~~=== Other notes ===~~

	supakeen suggests to first asking ourselves '''what do we expect to have at the space?''' Such a question will guide us to prioritize on a base collection of parts and to make space accordingly. All other parts that we have will be a nice supplementary collection.

	~~Atoomnet suggests to make per category an "exotic parts" box which are such obscure parts that do not belong in the main collection.~~

	== Background and structure ==		== Background and structure ==

Bamidiscus: proof of concept

2024-10-12T17:24:24Z

proof of concept

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	This is quite a bit of work. The metadata of parts never change though. The real burden here is to add metadata whenever you add something to the Catalogue.		This is quite a bit of work. The metadata of parts never change though. The real burden here is to add metadata whenever you add something to the Catalogue.


			== Proof of concept ==

			By building a small proof of concept we can see if it's chill, how much work it is and if it's worth the hassle.

			=== Big picture ===

			As a proof of concept, we could start by mapping out one of the wooden boxes of Koffers in the Tower, along with some other Samlas to the right of it.

			* Implement a system which keeps storage locations in place.
			* Create a Catalogue system which allows manipulating Parts, Locations and their tags. It should also accept and spit out queries.
			* List the parts
			** Tag along their specs and location.
			** Use it with the following kind of queries:
			*** Find part location (show parts, pick one, focus on location)
			*** Find part details (show parts, pick one, focus on metadata)
			*** Find fitting part (show metadata categories, enter one or more filters, show parts results)
			*** Look around (show categories, pick one, show parts) or (show locations, pick one, show associated parts)

			=== Implementation ===

			WIP


	=== Other notes ===		=== Other notes ===

Bamidiscus: /* Solutions: ideas */

2024-10-12T17:15:13Z

Solutions: ideas

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	* Categorize the Parts (for each type of part) on most important parameters, and make search queries filterable.		* Categorize the Parts (for each type of part) on most important parameters, and make search queries filterable.

			I think people will use it: for example the combination MOSFET, SMD, <=12V, can be quite useful.

	=== Locate ===		=== Locate ===
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	We might as well add some metadata. This metadata can be obtained from various sources with the aid of Octopart.		We might as well add some metadata. This metadata can be obtained from various sources with the aid of Octopart.

	This is quite a bit of work. The metadata of parts never change though. The real burden here is to add metadata whenever you add something to the Catalogue~~. I think people will use it: for example the combination MOSFET, SMD, <=12V, can be quite useful~~.		This is quite a bit of work. The metadata of parts never change though. The real burden here is to add metadata whenever you add something to the Catalogue.

	=== Other notes ===		=== Other notes ===
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	Atoomnet suggests to make per category an "exotic parts" box which are such obscure parts that do not belong in the main collection.		Atoomnet suggests to make per category an "exotic parts" box which are such obscure parts that do not belong in the main collection.






	== Background and structure ==		== Background and structure ==

Bamidiscus: /* Locate */

2024-10-12T17:03:01Z

Locate

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	* For each Part in the Catalogue we should add where it is located.		* For each Part in the Catalogue we should add where it is located.

	Having to maintain a catalogue of all locations and the mappings thereof is tedious and is a high burden. This can be overcome by making it much more modular, but still. It sucks, man.		Having to maintain a catalogue of all locations and the mappings thereof is tedious and is a high burden. This can be overcome by making it much more modular, but still. It sucks, man. To lower the burden compared to manually checking irl, we need to check what makes the latter so bad. Common nuisances:

	Rationale: ~~the~~ location of a part should be a description of an object of a size in the order of magnitude m2, for example the ''Tower'', the ''SMD Samlas'', the ''soldering equipment rack''.		* The part you look for is in another Storage/Place.
			** U IC diversen? U IC analoog? U 4000? SMD IC?
			** Turns out the AVR and ST programmers are in a separate Samla underneath the scopes.
			* The boxes are shuffled.

			Rationale:

			* The location of a part should be a description of an object of a size in the order of magnitude m2, for example the ''Tower'', the ''SMD Samlas'', the ''soldering equipment rack''.
			* Boxes should have a fixed location, made clear with some kind of identifier.

	=== Lookup ===		=== Lookup ===

Bamidiscus at 16:47, 12 October 2024

2024-10-12T16:47:35Z

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	* Sustainable over longer periods.		* Sustainable over longer periods.

	== ~~Background and structure~~ ==		=== Ethical considerations ===
	~~[[File:KofferOpen.jpg\|right\|thumb\|An opened Koffer.]]~~

	~~We have quite some parts. Some participants have come up with clever logistic solutions which brings us~~ to the ~~current situation~~.		Atoomnet went a step ahead to think about the consequences of such a system, listed below.

	~~=== Storage structure ===~~		Having such a system in place to search for parts means that it has to be accessible. People using it more often will be a logical consequence.
	~~The main point of focus is the Tower of storage boxes~~.

	* ~~The boxes used are~~ the ~~Allit EuroPlus Flex 37~~-~~17 Assortiments'''koffer''' (picture)~~.		* This could pave the way for people with malicious intent to abuse the fair-use policy. Outsiders will be able to obtain our free parts more easily.
	* ~~Each Koffer is labelled which '''category''' of~~ parts ~~it contains.~~		** How often are we going to give away one-off free parts?
	* ~~Each Koffer has an internal configuration of storage parts ('''Insert'''s), which allows them~~ to ~~be modular. Inside~~ the ~~Koffer there are two '''section'''s~~.		* By restricting access to the system resource increases the burden of using such a system.
	** ~~main section: up~~ to ~~4x6 individual 1x1 Inserts can be put, or Inserts with dimensions which are multitudes thereof.~~		** For example, having to login with LDAP sucks and makes you want to get up and search manually instead.
	** front section: The front section of each Koffer is a fixed mold with ~~two smaller compartments~~ and ~~a single wide compartment. Inserts do not apply~~ to ~~this section~~.		* On the other hand, maintaining our friendly stance towards newcomers (who seek parts) will statistically get us new members.
	* ~~Koffers can be put at any '''location''' inside~~ the ~~Tower.~~

	~~Let us define a '''compartment''' to be any main section Insert or front section compartment~~, ~~designatable to store~~ parts.

	~~=== Usual routine ===~~

	~~When we want to store a part, one or more compartments are designated to store the part by means of labeling them and putting the parts inside~~.

	== Problems of search strategies ==		== Problems of search strategies ==
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	Let's try to come up with solutions which addresses the questions of each strategy. It's important to keep the key points in the scope in mind.		Let's try to come up with solutions which addresses the questions of each strategy. It's important to keep the key points in the scope in mind.

			* Does it reach the goal?
			* Is it not too much effort to do?
			* Is it not too much effort to maintain?
			* Will people actually use it?

	=== Explore ===		=== Explore ===
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	* For each Part in the Catalogue we should add where it is located.		* For each Part in the Catalogue we should add where it is located.

			Having to maintain a catalogue of all locations and the mappings thereof is tedious and is a high burden. This can be overcome by making it much more modular, but still. It sucks, man.

			Rationale: the location of a part should be a description of an object of a size in the order of magnitude m2, for example the ''Tower'', the ''SMD Samlas'', the ''soldering equipment rack''.

	=== Lookup ===		=== Lookup ===

	* Same points as listed at Browse.		* Same points as listed at Browse.

			For each part that exists in the Catalogue it should at least be categorized with the appropriate tag, such as IC, MOSFET, Diode and such.

			We might as well add some metadata. This metadata can be obtained from various sources with the aid of Octopart.

			This is quite a bit of work. The metadata of parts never change though. The real burden here is to add metadata whenever you add something to the Catalogue. I think people will use it: for example the combination MOSFET, SMD, <=12V, can be quite useful.

	=== Other notes ===		=== Other notes ===
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	Atoomnet suggests to make per category an "exotic parts" box which are such obscure parts that do not belong in the main collection.		Atoomnet suggests to make per category an "exotic parts" box which are such obscure parts that do not belong in the main collection.

	~~== Ethical considerations ==~~

	~~Atoomnet went a step ahead to think about the consequences of such a system, listed below.~~

	~~Having such a system in place to search for parts means that it has to be accessible. People using it more often will be a logical consequence.~~

	* This ~~could pave the way~~ for ~~people~~ with ~~malicious intent~~ to ~~abuse~~ the ~~fair-use policy~~. ~~Outsiders will be able to obtain our free parts more easily~~.
	** How often are ~~we going to give away one~~-~~off free~~ parts?
	* ~~By restricting access~~ to the ~~system resource increases the burden of using such a system~~.		== Background and structure ==
	** ~~For example~~, ~~having to login~~ with ~~LDAP sucks~~ and ~~makes you want~~ to ~~get up and search manually instead~~.		[[File:KofferOpen.jpg\|right\|thumb\|An opened Koffer.]]
	* On the ~~other hand~~, ~~maintaining our friendly stance towards newcomers (who seek~~ parts~~) will statistically get us new members~~.
			'''This part is kinda irrelevant for now.'''

			We have quite some parts. Some participants have come up with clever logistic solutions which brings us to the current situation.

			=== Storage structure ===
			The main point of focus is the Tower of storage boxes.

			* The boxes used are the Allit EuroPlus Flex 37-17 Assortiments'''koffer''' (picture).
			* Each Koffer is labelled which '''category''' of parts it contains.
			* Each Koffer has an internal configuration of storage parts ('''Insert'''s), which allows them to be modular. Inside the Koffer there are two '''section'''s.
			** main section: up to 4x6 individual 1x1 Inserts can be put, or Inserts with dimensions which are multitudes thereof.
			** front section: The front section of each Koffer is a fixed mold with two smaller compartments and a single wide compartment. Inserts do not apply to this section.
			* Koffers can be put at any '''location''' inside the Tower.

			Let us define a '''compartment''' to be any main section Insert or front section compartment, designatable to store parts.

			=== Usual routine ===

			When we want to store a part, one or more compartments are designated to store the part by means of labeling them and putting the parts inside.

Bamidiscus: add stuff about ethics

2024-10-12T16:24:50Z

add stuff about ethics

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	Atoomnet suggests to make per category an "exotic parts" box which are such obscure parts that do not belong in the main collection.		Atoomnet suggests to make per category an "exotic parts" box which are such obscure parts that do not belong in the main collection.

			== Ethical considerations ==

			Atoomnet went a step ahead to think about the consequences of such a system, listed below.

			Having such a system in place to search for parts means that it has to be accessible. People using it more often will be a logical consequence.

			* This could pave the way for people with malicious intent to abuse the fair-use policy. Outsiders will be able to obtain our free parts more easily.
			** How often are we going to give away one-off free parts?
			* By restricting access to the system resource increases the burden of using such a system.
			** For example, having to login with LDAP sucks and makes you want to get up and search manually instead.
			* On the other hand, maintaining our friendly stance towards newcomers (who seek parts) will statistically get us new members.

Bamidiscus: add explicit questions

2024-10-12T14:23:06Z

add explicit questions

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	* Explore: What a nice Tower! So many types of parts! Let me look what we got.		* Explore: What a nice Tower! So many types of parts! Let me look what we got.
			** '''whatta we got'''
	* Browse: Cool, we got 4000 series ICs. I think we can find a hex inverter in here.		* Browse: Cool, we got 4000 series ICs. I think we can find a hex inverter in here.
			** '''which ones we got'''
	* Locate: I need the 4069. Where are they?		* Locate: I need the 4069. Where are they?
			** '''wheres the thing'''
	* Lookup: I found the 4069, but what brand is it? I can't use any Chinese ones in this project.		* Lookup: I found the 4069, but what brand is it? I can't use any Chinese ones in this project.
			** '''whats it do'''

	Each such strategy rips open its own can of worms.		Each such strategy rips open its own can of worms.

Bamidiscus: phrasing

2024-10-12T14:10:46Z

phrasing

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	* This raises the question: how can we best organize the Koffers in such a way that...		* This raises the question: how can we best organize the Koffers in such a way that...
	** people put them in ~~a way~~ that makes sense; and		** people put them in an ordered fashion such that it makes the most sense; and
	** people keep putting them where they are supposed to.		** people keep putting them where they are supposed to?

	=== Browse ===		=== Browse ===

Bamidiscus: phrasing

2024-10-12T14:10:13Z

phrasing

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	=== Explore ===		=== Explore ===

	* Build a system where people can easily check which Parts we (should) have in stock. Ideally a digital ~~catalogue~~.		* Build a system where people can easily check which Parts we (should) have in stock. Ideally a digital '''Catalogue'''.
	** Put the catalogue on an easily accessible central place, such as a website.		** Put the catalogue on an easily accessible central place, such as a website.
	* Make sure the referenced Part storage locations are fixed.		* Make sure the referenced Part storage locations are fixed.
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	=== Locate ===		=== Locate ===

	* For each Part we should add where it is located.		* For each Part in the Catalogue we should add where it is located.

	=== Lookup ===		=== Lookup ===

Bamidiscus: add some solutions

2024-10-12T14:05:12Z

add some solutions

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 * How can we best provide additional information about a part?
-== Solutions ==
+== Solutions: ideas ==
 Let's try to come up with solutions which addresses the questions of each strategy. It's important to keep the key points in the scope in mind.