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== Recipe V0.3 == | == Recipe V0.3 == | ||
=== Composition === | === Composition === | ||
| − | + | For 200 ml solution, all wt%. These will give only approximate concentrations, as non of the ingredients are pure. | |
| − | * 20 g | + | * 20 g ( 10% ) [https://www.pearlpaint.nl/nl/merken-producten/eco-line/aceton-eco_586/ Eco-Aceton from "De Parel" ] from hornbach |
| − | * 5 g [https://www.macodirect.de/en/chemistry/machine-chemistry/4690/tetenal-mirasol-2000-antistatic-wetting-agent-250ml mirasol 2000] - tenside / wetting agent. [https://www.theimagingwarehouse.com/file.php?filename=WebCat-000500040003000a0005/Tetenal-Mirasol-MSDS.pdf MSDS] | + | * 5 g ( 2.5% ) [https://www.macodirect.de/en/chemistry/machine-chemistry/4690/tetenal-mirasol-2000-antistatic-wetting-agent-250ml mirasol 2000] - tenside / wetting agent. [https://www.theimagingwarehouse.com/file.php?filename=WebCat-000500040003000a0005/Tetenal-Mirasol-MSDS.pdf MSDS] |
| − | * 10 g ethanol ( Available from drugstores as 95% ethanol for cleaning) | + | * 10 g ( 5%) ethanol ( Available from drugstores as 95% ethanol for cleaning) |
| − | * 172 g water | + | * 172 g ( 82% ) demineralised water |
=== Economics === | === Economics === | ||
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* Price per liter : 100×0.0068+25×0.0478+50×0.0229+1000×0.00053 = 3.55 per liter that is approx 1/3 of Alklanet rpice, 10 Eur/l | * Price per liter : 100×0.0068+25×0.0478+50×0.0229+1000×0.00053 = 3.55 per liter that is approx 1/3 of Alklanet rpice, 10 Eur/l | ||
| + | * This is very expensive since we are using most expensive source of ethanol and surfactant comes from a photographic materials supplier. | ||
=== Feedback === | === Feedback === | ||
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* Gori: Cleaned the outside glass of the door in the workshop. Seems to remove mystery spots better than Alklanet | * Gori: Cleaned the outside glass of the door in the workshop. Seems to remove mystery spots better than Alklanet | ||
* Gori: when used on a tables, no perceivable difference. | * Gori: when used on a tables, no perceivable difference. | ||
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| + | == Recipe V0.4 == | ||
| + | For this version, we want to improve both the economics and performance. | ||
| + | * Replace ethanol with Isopropyl alcohol : Better degreasing properies, and much cheaper | ||
| + | * Find an alternative surfactant / tenside, in bulk 1/10th of the price may be possible | ||
| + | |||
| + | === Composition === | ||
| + | For 200 ml solution, all wt%. These will give only approximate concentrations, as non of the ingredients are pure. | ||
| + | |||
| + | * 20 g ( 10% ) [https://www.pearlpaint.nl/nl/merken-producten/eco-line/aceton-eco_586/ Eco-Aceton from "De Parel" ] from hornbach | ||
| + | * 5 g ( 2.5% ) [https://www.macodirect.de/en/chemistry/machine-chemistry/4690/tetenal-mirasol-2000-antistatic-wetting-agent-250ml mirasol 2000] - tenside / wetting agent. [https://www.theimagingwarehouse.com/file.php?filename=WebCat-000500040003000a0005/Tetenal-Mirasol-MSDS.pdf MSDS] | ||
| + | * 10 g ( 5%) ethanol ( Available from drugstores as 95% ethanol for cleaning) | ||
| + | * 172 g ( 82% ) demineralised water | ||
| + | |||
= Testing = | = Testing = | ||
Revision as of 20:05, 25 March 2018
| Project Revklanet | |
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| Status | In progress |
| Contact | Gori, PeterC |
| Last Update | 2018-03-25 |
The project to make DIY Alklanet aka RevKlanet, AlklaNEP, Lolklanet or Alklanetniet. Why ? Alklanet is awesome cleaning agent, but is kinda expensive. Can we make something ourselves? Alklanet is a commercial product, with a secret composition. Howewer de MSDS reveals the most common chemicals.
Alklanet facts
- blue
- pH 5.5 - 7 according to MSDS, Litmus measures 6
- 5 -10% 2-Butoxyethanol
- ? % surfactant
- ? % ethanol
- Production of test batches :
Recipe V0.1
Al %weight, For 200 ml. These will give only apporximate concentrations.
- 20 g Eco-Aceton from "De Parel" from hornbach
- 10 g hard soap
- 10 g ethanol ( Available from drugstores as 95% ethanol for cleaning)
- 160 g water
Feedback
- Trouble dissolving all the soap, also feels very soapy, probably way too much.
- pH 8
- thrashed
Recipe V0.2
Al %weight, For 200 ml. These will give only apporximate concentrations.
- 20 g Eco-Aceton from "De Parel" from hornbach
- 2 g hard soap (Nivea creme soft)
- 10 g ethanol ( 96% ethanol from Etos)
- 168 g water
Feedback
- smells very nice
Recipe V0.3
Composition
For 200 ml solution, all wt%. These will give only approximate concentrations, as non of the ingredients are pure.
- 20 g ( 10% ) Eco-Aceton from "De Parel" from hornbach
- 5 g ( 2.5% ) mirasol 2000 - tenside / wetting agent. MSDS
- 10 g ( 5%) ethanol ( Available from drugstores as 95% ethanol for cleaning)
- 172 g ( 82% ) demineralised water
Economics
- Eco-Acetone - 6.80 eur /1000g = 0.0068 EUR/g
- Mirasol : 11.95 eur/ 250g = 0.0478EUR/g
- Etos Ethanol 2.29 eur/100g = 0.0229 EUR/g
- Aro Demiwater : 2.65 eur / 5000 g = 0.00053 EUR/g
- Price per liter : 100×0.0068+25×0.0478+50×0.0229+1000×0.00053 = 3.55 per liter that is approx 1/3 of Alklanet rpice, 10 Eur/l
- This is very expensive since we are using most expensive source of ethanol and surfactant comes from a photographic materials supplier.
Feedback
- pH 6-7
- Gori: Cleaned the outside glass of the door in the workshop. Seems to remove mystery spots better than Alklanet
- Gori: when used on a tables, no perceivable difference.
Recipe V0.4
For this version, we want to improve both the economics and performance.
- Replace ethanol with Isopropyl alcohol : Better degreasing properies, and much cheaper
- Find an alternative surfactant / tenside, in bulk 1/10th of the price may be possible
Composition
For 200 ml solution, all wt%. These will give only approximate concentrations, as non of the ingredients are pure.
- 20 g ( 10% ) Eco-Aceton from "De Parel" from hornbach
- 5 g ( 2.5% ) mirasol 2000 - tenside / wetting agent. MSDS
- 10 g ( 5%) ethanol ( Available from drugstores as 95% ethanol for cleaning)
- 172 g ( 82% ) demineralised water
Testing
- Test setup :
- Compare : Demineralised water, Alklanet, RevKlanet V0.2, RevKlanet V0.3
- Testing protocol :
- Apply and dry for 30 minites
- Wok oil
- Ketjap Manis
- Ketchup
- Meggele garlic butter
- Attempt cleaning with a clean microfibre cloth and report results
- Spray area with a single pump (we are using old Alklanet bottles)
- Wipe 1/3 immediately in a single downward stroke
- Wait 10 seconds then wipe 2nd 1/3 with a single stroke
- Then clean the final 1/3 until clean
- Then clean the entire area with the same product
Results V0.2 and v0.3
- Overall findings : Both V0.2 and V0.3 work as good as Alklanet. V0.3 dries fastest, and degrease markedly better than Alklanet. Probably because we use the a higher concentration of alcohols, and the wetting agent greatly helps as wel.
- Demiwater :
- Alklanet :
- V0.2 :
- V0.3 :
