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One of our participants (gert) showed up with a load of old (but seemingly high quality) coaxial cable from a data center. There are other people online looking for info on | One of our participants (thanks gert!) showed up with a load of old (but seemingly high quality) coaxial cable from a data center. There are other people online looking for info on this very same coax, but so far nothing is out there to be found. In an effort to remedy that, here's what we managed to figure out for ourselves. | ||
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MONTROSE / CDT 16 AWG (UL) CL2P SHIELDED COAXIAL 125C CSA CXC 60C FT4 & FT6 | MONTROSE / CDT 16 AWG (UL) CL2P SHIELDED COAXIAL 125C CSA CXC 60C FT4 & FT6 | ||
It's 50 ohm coax, | It's 50 ohm coax, it has a braid/foil shielding, and a stranded center conductor. The velocity factor is 0.85, suggesting a foam polyethylene dielectric. The exterior is supposedly UV resistant. | ||
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== Further measurements == | |||
Attenuation/100 meters: | |||
@26MHz=1.33dB, | |||
@50MHz=1.81dB, | |||
@70MHz=1.99dB, | |||
@145MHz=3.35dB. | |||
Latest revision as of 19:41, 24 October 2018
| Project Montrose coax | |
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| Mystery coax specifications. | |
| Status | Completed |
| Contact | thomas |
| Last Update | 2018-10-24 |
One of our participants (thanks gert!) showed up with a load of old (but seemingly high quality) coaxial cable from a data center. There are other people online looking for info on this very same coax, but so far nothing is out there to be found. In an effort to remedy that, here's what we managed to figure out for ourselves.
The cable is marked as follows:
MONTROSE / CDT 16 AWG (UL) CL2P SHIELDED COAXIAL 125C CSA CXC 60C FT4 & FT6
It's 50 ohm coax, it has a braid/foil shielding, and a stranded center conductor. The velocity factor is 0.85, suggesting a foam polyethylene dielectric. The exterior is supposedly UV resistant.
Measurement
The velocity factor was measured with time domain reflectometry. I built a cheap and easy fast-rising-edge pulse generator after a design by Alan Wolke (W2AEW). See his video for details.
My version is a dip 74AC14 with all necessary components, connections and even an SMA connector soldered directly onto the chip. The 74AC14 offers six inverting schmitt triggers. The first one is used to invert an incoming signal, driving the remaining five schmitt triggers, which are ganged together and connected to the coax under test via the SMA. I'm just using a signal generator to provide the first schmitt trigger with a square wave, but you can implement Alan's solution of using the first Schmitt trigger in an oscillator with the addition of just a single resistor and capacitor.
The complete circuit, all soldered onto the dip chip.
The rising edge, on the order of a few nanoseconds.
The actual measurement, showing a round trip of 136.4ns. The actual length of the cable is 17.3m, which works out to a velocity factor of 0.85 or so.
Further measurements
Attenuation/100 meters: @26MHz=1.33dB, @50MHz=1.81dB, @70MHz=1.99dB, @145MHz=3.35dB.