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!Value
 
!Value
 
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|-
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|Aanschafwaarde
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|Available budget
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| € ?
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| € 2500 (?)
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Minimum Maximum print dimensions
 
|Minimum Maximum print dimensions
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| ? x ? x ? mm
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| 180 x 180 x 180 mm
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Usable materials
 
|Usable materials
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|ABS, PLA, ?
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|ABS & PLA
 +
|-
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|Filament Availability
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| Use generic 1.75 or 3mm filament
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Surface roughness / print accuracy*
 
|Surface roughness / print accuracy*
 
| better than 0.5 mm (at least!)
 
| better than 0.5 mm (at least!)
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|-
 +
|Heated bed
 +
| Yes
 +
|-
 +
|Factory build
 +
| Yes, ensures we have warranty for at least 2 years
 +
|-
 +
|Spare parts
 +
| It must be possible to have the machine repaired for at least 4 years after purchase, even after warranty expired (this may be too long, what is a realistic technical lifespan of a 3D-printer?)
 +
|-
 +
|OS support for printing software
 +
| Linux
 
|}
 
|}
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 +
== Onze wensen ==
 +
*Open source hardware en software
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*Dual extruders
 +
*heated bed up to 115 deg C
 +
*automatic calibration
 +
*automatic bed leveling or very easy manual leveling
  
 
== Mogelijke printers ==
 
== Mogelijke printers ==
  
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EDIT: De Renkforce RF1000 ziet er niet heel verkeerd uit, heeft Linux drivers, groot printvolume en kost €1500 (in DE, NL = €1600). Er zijn veel verschillende materialen bruikbaar.
 
  
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Dikte druklaag (min.): 0.05 mm
 
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Dikte druklaag (max.): 0.4 mm
 
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Breedte: 375 mm
 
−
Extrudertype: Single 
 
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Uitvoering: Bouwpakket (kant en klaar kost €400 meer) 
 
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Drukdiepte (Z) max.: 230 mm
 
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Drukbreedte (X) max.: 245 mm
 
−
Hoogte: 500 mm
 
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Mondstuk-Ø: 0.5 mm
 
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Ondersteund filament: ABS, Laywood, PET, PLA, Polyamid
 
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Interfaces: USB 2.0 
 
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Kleur: Zilver (gesatineerd) 
 
−
Stroomverbruik (max.): 620 W
 
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Materiaal behuizing: Aluminium, staal 
 
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Gewicht: 16.5 kg
 
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Diepte: 410 mm
 
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SD-slot: Ja 
 
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Drukhoogte (Y) max.: 200 mm
 
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Printbed eigenschappen: Verwarmd, Verwisselbaar
 
  
  
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Besproken op de [[MetaMeeting14x05x13]]. Eerste model (Mankati) is via Rix, tweede model (Carteso) zit in maasstricht en Lulzbot onbekend.
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Besproken op de [[MetaMeeting14x05x13]].  
  
 
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!Ultimaker II
 
!Ultimaker II
 
!Deltamaker
 
!Deltamaker
 +
!Renkforce RF1000
 +
!PP3DP 3D printer Up! Mini
 +
!Robo R1
 
|-
 
|-
−
|Price
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|Prijs
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|2150
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|€2150
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|3600
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|€3600
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|2195
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|€2195
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|€ 2300 incl. BTW
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|€2300 incl. BTW
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|$ 2400
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|$2400
 +
|€1999 (built);€1599 (kit)
 +
|€639 (built)
 +
|€799 (build)
 
|-
 
|-
 
|PLA
 
|PLA
 
|YES
 
|YES
−
|x
 
 
|YES
 
|YES
 
|YES
 
|YES
 +
|YES
 +
|YES
 +
|YES
 +
|X
 
|YES
 
|YES
 
|-
 
|-
 
|ABS
 
|ABS
 
|YES
 
|YES
−
|x
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|YES
 
|YES
 
|YES
 
|YES
 
|YES
 
|?
 
|?
 +
|YES
 +
|YES
 +
|YES
 
|-
 
|-
 
|PVA
 
|PVA
 
|YES
 
|YES
−
|x
+
|X
 
|YES
 
|YES
 
|?
 
|?
 
|?
 
|?
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|?
 +
|X
 +
|X
 +
|-
 +
|Other materials
 +
|
 +
|XT, PP, PC, BioFilla, Arnitel ECO, NinjaFlex
 +
|nylon, Laywood, Laybrick & Ninjaflex
 +
|nylon, Laywood, Laybrick & Ninjaflex
 +
|
 +
|Laywood, PET, , Polyamid (nylon)
 +
|
 +
|
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Filament reel price (weight)
 
|Filament reel price (weight)
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|
 
|
 
|
 
|
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|€ 38 - 42 (0.75 kg)
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|€38 - 42 (0.75 kg)
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|$ 39 (1 kg)
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|$39 (1 kg)
 +
|€45 (2.1 kg)
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|€39 (0.7 kg)
 +
|€20 (1.0 kg)
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Filament Diameter
 
|Filament Diameter
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|3 mm
 
|3 mm
 
|2.85 mm  
 
|2.85 mm  
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|1.75 mm
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|1.75 mm
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|1.75 mm
 
|1.75 mm
 
|1.75 mm
 
|-
 
|-
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|max 240 °C
 
|max 240 °C
 
|180 - 260 °C
 
|180 - 260 °C
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|
 +
|x
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|
 
|
 
|
 
|-
 
|-
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|STL / OBJ / DAE / AMF
 
|STL / OBJ / DAE / AMF
 
|
 
|
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|
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|STL
 +
|STL (SD-Card)
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Print speed
 
|Print speed
 
| -180 mm/s
 
| -180 mm/s
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| -150 mm/s
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| -200mm/sec, 100 micron (Filament 1.75mm, Nozzle 0.4mm)
 
| -200 mm/s
 
| -200 mm/s
 
|30-300 mm/s
 
|30-300 mm/s
 
|
 
|
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|
 +
| 9min per cm3
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|
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Accuracy*
 
|Accuracy*
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|0,1 mm
 
|0,1 mm
 
|0.0125 mm (X,Y), 0.005 mm (Z)
 
|0.0125 mm (X,Y), 0.005 mm (Z)
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|
 +
|
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|
 
|
 
|
 
|-
 
|-
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|x
 
|x
 
|x
 
|x
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|x
 +
|x
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|
 
|
 
|
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Controller*
 
|Controller*
 
|Arduino Mega 2560 R3
 
|Arduino Mega 2560 R3
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|x
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|Marlin for Cartesio
 
|open source
 
|open source
 
|YES
 
|YES
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|
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|
 +
|
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|Arduino Mega 2560 + RAMPS 1.4
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Linux
 
|Linux
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|YES
 
|YES
 
|
 
|
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|Yes
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|
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| YES
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Software
 
|Software
 
|MankatiUM (Based on Cura)
 
|MankatiUM (Based on Cura)
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|x
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|all open source packages and other
 
|x
 
|x
 
|Cura
 
|Cura
 
|Marlin, OctoPrint, Repetier Host, and Slic3r
 
|Marlin, OctoPrint, Repetier Host, and Slic3r
 +
|Linux drivers (FWIW)
 +
|
 +
|Cura, Printrun/Pronterface, Octoprint
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Extruders
 
|Extruders
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|max 1
 
|max 1
 
|
 
|
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|1
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|1
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|1
 
|1
 
|1
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Max. print dimensions
 
|Max. print dimensions
 
|250×250×300 mm
 
|250×250×300 mm
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|400x200x200 mm
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|410x210x200 mm
 
|297x274x248 mm
 
|297x274x248 mm
 
|230x225x205 mm
 
|230x225x205 mm
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|254Øx278mm
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|254Øx278 mm
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|250x235x175 mm
 +
|120x120x120 mm
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|254x228.6x203.2 mm
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Extrude Nozzle
 
|Extrude Nozzle
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|0,4 mm (0,3 en 0,5 beschikbaar)
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|0.4 mm (0.3 en 0.5 beschikbaar)
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|?
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|0.25, 0.3, 0.35, 0.4 (standard), 0.6, 0.8 mm
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|0.075mm to 0.35mm
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|0.075 mm to 0.35 mm
 
|0.4 mm
 
|0.4 mm
 
|
 
|
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|0.5 mm
 +
|0.2 mm to 0.35 mm
 +
|0.4 mm
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Hot bed
 
|Hot bed
 
|YES
 
|YES
−
|x
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|150 °C (optional 150 °C glass plate)
 
|YES
 
|YES
 
|50-100 °C
 
|50-100 °C
 
|
 
|
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|YES, changeable
 +
|YES 50 °C
 +
|YES
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Bed materiaal
 
|Bed materiaal
 
|Monocrystal glass
 
|Monocrystal glass
−
|x
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|optional 150 °C glass plate
 
|Borosilicate glass bed covered with PET film
 
|Borosilicate glass bed covered with PET film
 
|glass
 
|glass
 
|
 
|
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|Ceramic
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|
 +
|YES
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Closed printing area
 
|Closed printing area
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|closed sides, open front/top
 
|closed sides, open front/top
 
|No, completely open
 
|No, completely open
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|No, open back and front
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|YES
 +
|Semi-closed
 
|-
 
|-
−
|External dimensions
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|External dimensions (wxdxh)
 
|380x420x530 mm
 
|380x420x530 mm
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|x
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|710x530x610 mm
 
|680x520x515 mm
 
|680x520x515 mm
 
|492x342x558 mm (incl. filament)
 
|492x342x558 mm (incl. filament)
 
|
 
|
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|375x410x500 mm
 +
|245x260x250 mm
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|381x558x464 mm
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Weight*
 
|Weight*
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|25kg
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|25 kg
−
|x
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|29 kg
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|11kg
+
|11 kg
 
|YES
 
|YES
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|
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|16.5 kg
 +
|5 kg
 +
|11.65 kg
 
|-
 
|-
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Notes
 
|Notes
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|x
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|Mankati is via Rix
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|Graveert ook
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|Graveert ook, "zit in maasstricht"
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|Open source hardware & software, print ook nylon, Laywood, Laybrick & Ninjaflex
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|Open source hardware & software
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|Open source hardware & software, print ook nylon, Laywood, Laybrick & Ninjaflex
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|Open source hardware & software
 
|
 
|
 +
|Waarschijnlijk beter om een opgebouwde versie te kopen (garantie etc)
 +
Dikte druklaag (min.): 0.05 mm
 +
Dikte druklaag (max.): 0.4 mm
 +
Interfaces: USB 2.0 
 +
Kleur: Zilver (gesatineerd) 
 +
Stroomverbruik (max.): 620 W
 +
Materiaal behuizing: Aluminium, staal 
 +
SD-slot
 +
|Hugely tiny print area
 +
|Bestelbaar via ridix, 1 jaar garantie.
 +
Auto bed leveling
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Link
 
|Link
 
|http://www.mankati.com/fullscale-xt.html
 
|http://www.mankati.com/fullscale-xt.html
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|http://mauk.cc/webshop/systems/cartesio-assembled/Cartesio-w1ce-assembled
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|http://mauk.cc/webshop/systems/cartesio-assembled/Cartesio-w1ce-assembled http://mauk.cc/webshop/Cartesio-systems/Cartesio-W-system
 
|https://www.lulzbot.com/products/lulzbot-taz-4-3d-printer
 
|https://www.lulzbot.com/products/lulzbot-taz-4-3d-printer
 
|https://www.ultimaker.com/pages/our-printers/ultimaker-2
 
|https://www.ultimaker.com/pages/our-printers/ultimaker-2
 
|http://www.deltamaker.com/
 
|http://www.deltamaker.com/
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|https://www.conrad.nl/nl/renkforce-rf1000-3d-printer-1007508.html
 +
|http://www.bcc.nl/computer/printer-en-scanner/3d-printer/pp3dp-3d-printer-up--mini(76151)
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|http://www.ridix.nl/r1-robo-3d-printer-plaabs-model-p-17053.html
 
|}
 
|}
  

Latest revision as of 10:32, 23 March 2015

3D printer vergelijking

Onze eisen

Parameter Value
Available budget € 2500 (?)
Minimum Maximum print dimensions 180 x 180 x 180 mm
Usable materials ABS & PLA
Filament Availability Use generic 1.75 or 3mm filament
Surface roughness / print accuracy* better than 0.5 mm (at least!)
Heated bed Yes
Factory build Yes, ensures we have warranty for at least 2 years
Spare parts It must be possible to have the machine repaired for at least 4 years after purchase, even after warranty expired (this may be too long, what is a realistic technical lifespan of a 3D-printer?)
OS support for printing software Linux

Onze wensen

  • Open source hardware en software
  • Dual extruders
  • heated bed up to 115 deg C
  • automatic calibration
  • automatic bed leveling or very easy manual leveling

Mogelijke printers

Besproken op de MetaMeeting14x05x13.

Mankati Fullscale XT Cartesio W1CE Lulzbot TAZ 4 Ultimaker II Deltamaker Renkforce RF1000 PP3DP 3D printer Up! Mini Robo R1
Prijs €2150 €3600 €2195 €2300 incl. BTW $2400 €1999 (built);€1599 (kit) €639 (built) €799 (build)
PLA YES YES YES YES YES YES X YES
ABS YES YES YES YES ? YES YES YES
PVA YES X YES ? ? ? X X
Other materials XT, PP, PC, BioFilla, Arnitel ECO, NinjaFlex nylon, Laywood, Laybrick & Ninjaflex nylon, Laywood, Laybrick & Ninjaflex Laywood, PET, , Polyamid (nylon)
Filament reel price (weight) €38 - 42 (0.75 kg) $39 (1 kg) €45 (2.1 kg) €39 (0.7 kg) €20 (1.0 kg)
Filament Diameter 3 mm 3 mm 3 mm 2.85 mm 1.75 mm 1.75 mm 1.75 mm 1.75 mm
Filament Temp 150 tot 250 °C x max 240 °C 180 - 260 °C x
File support stl, obj, gcode x STL / OBJ / DAE / AMF STL STL (SD-Card)
Print speed -180 mm/s -200mm/sec, 100 micron (Filament 1.75mm, Nozzle 0.4mm) -200 mm/s 30-300 mm/s 9min per cm3
Accuracy* X,Y axis 0.0125 mm, Z axis 0.001 mm 0,28 mm 0,1 mm 0.0125 mm (X,Y), 0.005 mm (Z)
Stepper Motor* X, Y 4248, 1.3A, Z 4263, 1.5A x x x x x
Controller* Arduino Mega 2560 R3 Marlin for Cartesio open source YES Arduino Mega 2560 + RAMPS 1.4
Linux YES x YES YES Yes YES
Software MankatiUM (Based on Cura) all open source packages and other x Cura Marlin, OctoPrint, Repetier Host, and Slic3r Linux drivers (FWIW) Cura, Printrun/Pronterface, Octoprint
Extruders max 2 max 4 max 1 1 1 1 1
Max. print dimensions 250×250×300 mm 410x210x200 mm 297x274x248 mm 230x225x205 mm 254Øx278 mm 250x235x175 mm 120x120x120 mm 254x228.6x203.2 mm
Extrude Nozzle 0.4 mm (0.3 en 0.5 beschikbaar) 0.25, 0.3, 0.35, 0.4 (standard), 0.6, 0.8 mm 0.075 mm to 0.35 mm 0.4 mm 0.5 mm 0.2 mm to 0.35 mm 0.4 mm
Hot bed YES 150 °C (optional 150 °C glass plate) YES 50-100 °C YES, changeable YES 50 °C YES
Bed materiaal Monocrystal glass optional 150 °C glass plate Borosilicate glass bed covered with PET film glass Ceramic YES
Closed printing area Ja Ja Nee closed sides, open front/top No, completely open No, open back and front YES Semi-closed
External dimensions (wxdxh) 380x420x530 mm 710x530x610 mm 680x520x515 mm 492x342x558 mm (incl. filament) 375x410x500 mm 245x260x250 mm 381x558x464 mm
Weight* 25 kg 29 kg 11 kg YES 16.5 kg 5 kg 11.65 kg
Notes Mankati is via Rix Graveert ook, "zit in maasstricht" Open source hardware & software Open source hardware & software Waarschijnlijk beter om een opgebouwde versie te kopen (garantie etc)

Dikte druklaag (min.): 0.05 mm Dikte druklaag (max.): 0.4 mm Interfaces: USB 2.0 Kleur: Zilver (gesatineerd) Stroomverbruik (max.): 620 W Materiaal behuizing: Aluminium, staal SD-slot

Hugely tiny print area Bestelbaar via ridix, 1 jaar garantie.

Auto bed leveling

Link http://www.mankati.com/fullscale-xt.html http://mauk.cc/webshop/systems/cartesio-assembled/Cartesio-w1ce-assembled http://mauk.cc/webshop/Cartesio-systems/Cartesio-W-system https://www.lulzbot.com/products/lulzbot-taz-4-3d-printer https://www.ultimaker.com/pages/our-printers/ultimaker-2 http://www.deltamaker.com/ https://www.conrad.nl/nl/renkforce-rf1000-3d-printer-1007508.html http://www.bcc.nl/computer/printer-en-scanner/3d-printer/pp3dp-3d-printer-up--mini(76151) http://www.ridix.nl/r1-robo-3d-printer-plaabs-model-p-17053.html

x = niet bekend

* = unreliable or irrelevant specification

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